What Thais Need to Know and Learn about Laotians
Of the nine other members of Asean, Thailand is most culturally, linguistically and economically linked to the Lao People’s Democratic Republic. The economic interdependence of the two nations is particularly important and Laos is clearly part of the ”Baht Zone”. The baht can be used easily anywhere in Laos.
Thailand critically needs energy imports from Laos and the Lao in turn need many consumer goods from Thailand. Also approximately one third of the Thai population has Lao cultural and linguistic roots.
Often Thais like to define their relationship with the Lao as “brothers and sisters”. but the Lao scholar and historian, Ajarn Mayoury Ngaosyvathn, instead calls simply for the nations to be close and friendly neighbours.
As we all know Thailand is amazing in many ways, but Laos is also amazing. What is most remarkable is that Laos has survived as a political and cultural identity despite being landlocked and surrounded by five powerful and much larger neighbours, namely, China, Vietnam, Myanmar, Thailand, and Cambodia.
Unfortunately there are many Thai misunderstandings about Laos and the Lao. First, many think that the Isaan (Northeast) language and Lao language arethe same. They are indeed similar but not the same. Once they were the same, but diverged over time because of 1) French colonialism, 2) communism, and 3) the Thaiification of the Isaan language.
Nearly all geographic and mathematics terminology in the Lao language, for example, is Frenchderived. If a person asks for “galaem” in Isaan, they will normally get a blank stare. “Galaem” is the Lao word for ice cream.
A second misunderstanding relates to the phrase “mai mi arai” (there is nothing there) referring to Laos. Many Thai travel to Vientiane, Laos for just one day, not even staying the night. They shop at the ”morning” market, have lunch at a nice restaurant on the Mekong, and visit a couple of prominent temples. They have “done Laos”.
I once took a group of Thai students on a study tour of Laos for two months. At the beginning they could not fathom why we were spending two months in a place where “mai mi arai”. At the end of the two months, they indicated a desire to stay longer. Obviously over time they came to realise how much there was to learn about Laos.
The Thai history, geography, and social science curricula on Laos need to be reviewed and revised. Students, for example, should be exposed to both Thai and Lao perspectives on the historical relations between the two nations. They should examine King Chao Anu both as a villain (Thai perspective) and hero (Lao perspective).
They need to analyse critically why Laos became communist and why the new government significantly reformed the Lao language.
They need to be exposed to how the Thai and Lao languages are the same and differ. The word “Thai/tai” is particularly interesting. In Thai, it means free, while in Lao it means people. Tai Luang Pabang, means Luang Pabang people, not Thai people living there.
As part of both cultural and moral education (and given the growing influence and power of social media), students need to know that ethnic jokes aboutthe Lao and Isaan people are inappropriate. Some of the gross ethnic jokes I have heard about the Lao are unprintable here. Also celebrities in their interviews need to be culturally sensitive in their remarks about the Lao. Some unfortunate incidents have occurred in the past.
Thais need to study and be more aware of more important Lao scholars and writers such as the prominent historian Maha Sila Viravong (originally from Roi Et) and his three children, who are all noted writers, and Ajarns Pheuiphanh and Mayoury Ngaosyvathn, prolific Lao scholars and historians.
One enjoyable technique for teaching about the subtle differences between the two cultures is to present ambiguous images of both cultures and have students themselves ascertain which image is Thai and which is Lao. Watching critically movies such as “Sabai Di Luang Prabang” can also be a fun and effective way for Thais to learn about their important neighbour.
Even though most Lao can understand Thai, they deeply appreciate it when Thais make the effort to speak their language, which is relatively easy, giventhe similarities between the two languages. Dr Sumontha Promboon, former president of Srinakharinwirot University, made a great effort to speak and write Lao well, when serving as an ADB consultant in Laos. Her effort was extremely well received. HRH Princess Maha Chakri Sirindhorn, former Prime Minister Anand Panyarachun, Prof Charnwit Kasetsiri, Dr Prawese Wasi, and Sulak Sivaraksa have all shown impressive and exemplary cultural sensitivity in writing about and interacting with the Lao people.
What is most important for the future of ThaiLao relations in the AEC (ASEAN Economic Community) era is for Thais to enhance their cultural empathy of the Lao and their rich cultures and history.
Article originally published in The Nation, June 25, 2012
by Gerald W Fry, Distinguished International Professor
Department of Organisational Leadership, Policy, and Development, University of Minnesota
gwf@umn.edu
Department of Organisational Leadership, Policy, and Development, University of Minnesota
gwf@umn.edu
ການທຳຄວາມເຂົ້າໃຈ ລະຫ່ວາງ ເພື່ອນບ້ານ : ຄົນໄທ ຕ້ອງຮຽນຮູ້ ແລະເຂົ້າໃຈຫຍັງແດ່ ກ່ຽວກັບລາວ.
ໃນຈຳນວນອີກເກົ້າປະເທດທີ່ເປັນສະມາຊິກຂອງກຸ່ມອາຊຽນ, ປະເທດໄທເປັນປະເທດ ທີ່ມີຂະນົບທຳນຽມ ທາງວັດ ທະນາທຳ, ການໃຊ້ພາສາແລະເສດຖະກິດ ທີ່ເຊື່ອມໂຍງກັບ ສາທາລະນະລັດປະຊາທິປະໄຕປະຊາຊົນລາວ ຫຼາຍທີ່ສຸດ. ການເພິ່ງພາເຊິ່ງກັນແລະກັນຂອງສອງປະເທດນີ້ໂດຍສະເພາະທາງດ້ານເສດຖະກິດ ແມ່ນມີຄວາມສຳຄັນຫຼາຍ ແລະ ເຫັນໄດ້ຢ່າງຊັດເຈນວ່າ ລາວແມ່ນພາກສ່ວນໜຶ່ງຂອງ “ເຂດທີ່ໃຊ້ເງີນບາດ”. ເງີນບາດສາມາດໃຊ້ໄດ້ໃນທຸກໆແຫ່ງຂອງປະເທດລາວ ຢ່າງສະດວກສະບາຍ.
ປະເທດໄທມີຄວາມຕ້ອງການອັນຈຳເປັນທີ່ຈະນຳເຂົ້າພະລັງງານຈາກລາວ ແລະໃນທາງກັບກັນ ຄົນລາວກໍ່ຕ້ອງການສິນຄ້າບໍລິໂພກຫຼາຍຢ່າງຈາກປະເທດໄທ. ເຊັ່ນດຽວກັນ, ປະມານໜຶ່ງສ່ວນສາມຂອງປະຊາກອນ ໃນປະເທດໄທ ມີຮາກເຫງົ້າພາສາແລະວັດທະນາທຳມາຈາກລາວ.
ຄົນໄທມັກຈະຖືສະເໝີວ່າ ຄວາມສໍາພັນຂອງເຂົາເຈົ້າຕໍ່ຄົນລາວ ປຽບສະເໝືອນ “ ອ້າຍແລະນ້ອງ ”. ແຕ່ ອາຈານ ມາຍຸຣີ ເງົາສີວັດ, ນັກວິຊາການແລະນັກປະຫວັດສາດລາວ, ແທນທີ່ດ້ວຍການຮ້ອງແບບທົ່ວໆໄປສຳຫຼັບຄວາມສໍາ ພັນຂອງສອງປະເທດນີ້ວ່າ ເພື່ອນບ້ານທີ່ໄກ້ຄຽງແລະເປັນມິດກັນ.
ດັ່ງທີ່ພວກເຮົາຮູ້ແລ້ວວ່າ ປະເທດໄທມີຄວາມມະຫັດສະຈັນໃນຫຼາຍດ້ານ, ແຕ່ ລາວ ກໍ່ເປັນປະເທດທີ່ມະຫັດສະຈັນເຊັ່ນດຽວກັນ. ສິ່ງທີ່ໜ້າພາກພູມໃຈທີ່ສຸດກໍ່ຄື ລາວສາມາດຮັກໄວ້ເຊິ່ງຄວາມເປັນເອກະລັກທາງການເມືອງແລະວັດ ທະນາທຳຂອງຕົນ ເຖີງແມ່ນວ່າ ຈະເປັນປະເທດທີ່ບໍ່ມີທາງອອກສູ່ທະເລ ແລະຖືກອ້ອມຮອບດ້ວຍ ຫ້າປະເທດເພື່ອນບ້ານທີ່ມີອຳນາດແລະຂະໜາດທີ່ໃຫຍ່ກ່ວາເຊັ່ນ ຈີນ, ຫວຽດນາມ, ມຽນມາ, ໄທ ແລະກຳປູເຈຍ.
ແຕ່ເປັນທີ່ໜ້າເສຍດາຍ, ມີການເຂົ້າໃຈຜິດຂອງຄົນໄທຫຼາຍຄົນ ກ່ຽວກັບປະເທດລາວແລະຄົນລາວ. ອັນທີໜຶ່ງ, ຫຼາຍຄົນເຂົ້າໃຈວ່າ ພາສາອີສານ (ພາກຕາເວັນອອກສ່ຽງເໜືອ) ແລະພາສາລາວແມ່ນອັນດຽວກັນ. ຄວາມຈິງ ສອງພາສານີ້ຄ້າຍຄືກັນແທ້ ແຕ່ບໍ່ແມ່ນອັນດຽວກັນ. ເມື່ອກ່ອນສອງພາສານີ້ເຄີຍເປັນພາສາດຽວກັນ ແຕ່ກໍ່ຖືກແຍກອອກໃນເວລາຕໍ່ມາ ເພາະວ່າ 1) ການລ່າອານານິຄົມຂອງຝຣັ່ງເສດ, 2) ລະບອບ ຄອມມູນິດ, ແລະ 3) ໄທດັດແປງພາສາພາສາອີສານໃຫ້ເປັນພາສາໄທ.
ການບັນຍັດສັບ ຫຼືຄຳສັບສະເພາະ ກ່ຽວກັບພູມສາດແລະຄະນິດສາດ ໃນພາສາລາວ ເກືອບທັງໝົດແມ່ນມາຈາກພາສາຝຣັ່ງເສດ, ຕົວຢ່າງ. ຖ້າວ່າ ມີຜູ້ໃດຜູ້ໜຶ່ງຖາມຫາ “ ກະແລ່ມ ” ໃນພາກອີສານ, ຄົນຜູ້ນັ້ນກໍຈະຖືກແນມເບິ່ງໜ້າເສີຍໆແລະຈະບໍ່ໄດ້ຫຍັງ. ຄຳວ່າ “ ກະແລ່ມ ” ໃນພາສາລາວໝາຍເຖີງ ໄອຊ໌ຄຣີມ.
ຄວາມເຂົ້າໃຈຜິດອັນທີສອງ ແມ່ນກ່ຽວຂ້ອງກັບປະໂຫຍກຄຳເວົ້າທີ່ວ່າ “ ໄມ່ ມີ ອະໄຣ ” (ບໍ່ມີຫຍັງຢູ່ທີ່ນັ້ນ) ໝາຍເຖີງປະເທດລາວ. ມີຄົນໄທຫຼາຍຄົນທີ່ເດີນທາງໄປວຽຈັນ, ປະເທດລາວ ພຽງມື້ດຽວ ແລະກໍບໍ່ໄດ້ນອນຄ້າງຄືນດ້ວຍຊ້ຳ. ພວກເຂົາ ພຽງແຕ່ໄປຊື້ເຄື່ອງຢູ່ຕະຫຼາດ “ເຊົ້າ”, ກິນເຂົ້າທ່ຽງຢູ່ຮ້ານອາຫານດີໆແຖວ ແຄມຂອງ ແລະ ກໍເຂົ້າຢ້ຽມຊົມວັດທີ່ມີຊື່ສຽງໂດດເດັ່ນຈັກສອງວັດ. ພຽງເທົ່ານັ້ນພວກເຂົາກໍ່ຖືວ່າ “ ສຳເລັດການມາລາວແລ້ວ ”.
ມີຄັ້ງໜຶ່ງ ຂ້າພະເຈົ້າເຄີຍນຳພາກຸ່ມນັກສຶກສາໄທ ໄປທັດສະນະສຶກສາກ່ຽວກັບປະເທດລາວ ເປັນເວລາສອງເດືອນ. ໃນໄລຍະທຳອິດ ພວກນັກສຶກສາບໍ່ສາມາດທຳຄວາມເຂົ້າໃຈໄດ້ຢ່າງລະອຽດວ່າ ເປັນຫຍັງພວກເຂົາຈຶ່ງຕ້ອງມາໃຊ້ເວລາຕັ້ງສອງເດືອນ ໃນພື້ນທີ່ ທີ່ “ ໄມ່ ມີ ອາໄຣ ” ຄືແນວນີ້. ໃນຊ່ວງໄລຍະສຸດທ້າຍຂອງການທັດທະນະສຶກສາ, ພວກເຂົາສະແດງໃຫ້ເຫັນເຈດຈຳນົງ ທີ່ຈະຢູ່ຕໍ່ອີກ. ເຫັນໄດ້ຢ່າງຊັດເຈນວ່າ ຕະຫຼອດເວລາຂອງການທັດສະນາະສຶກ ສາ ພວກເຂົາສຳນຶກໄດ້ເຖີງຄວາມຫຼາກຫຼາຍທີ່ພວກເຂົາໄດ້ຮຽນຮູ້ແລະເຂົ້າໃຈກ່ຽວກັບປະເທດລາວ.
ຫຼັກສູດທາງປະຫວັດສາດ, ພູມສາດ ແລະວິທະຍາສາດສັງຄົມ ຂອງໄທ ກ່ຽວກັບປະເທດລາວ ຄວນຈະມີການທົບທວນແລະປັບປຸງ. ຍົກຕົວຢ່າງ, ນັກສຶກສາ ຄວນຮັບຮູ້ແລະສຳພັດກັບ ທັງລາວແລະໄທ ກ່ຽວກັບຄວາມສຳພັນທາງ ປະຫວັດສາດລະຫ່ວາງສອງຊາດ. ພວກເຂົາຄວນສຶກສາຄົ້ນຄ້ວາກ່ຽວກັບປະຫວັດ ເຈົ້າອານຸວົງ ຜູ້ເຊິ່ງເປັນທັງ ຜູ້ຊົ່ວຮ້າຍ (ໃນມຸມມອງຂອງຄົນໄທ) ແລະ ວິລະຊົນ (ໃນມຸມມອງຂອງຄົນລາວ).
ພວກເຂົາຈຳເປັນຕ້ອງສຶກສາວິໃຈວ່າ ເປັນຫຍັງປະເທດລາວຈຶ່ງກາຍເປັນຄອມມູນິດ ແລະເປັນຫຍັງລັດຖະບານໃໝ່ ຈຶ່ງປະຕິຮູບພາສາລາວ.
ພວກເຂົາຄວນຈະຄົ້ນຫາວ່າ ພາສາໄທແລະພາສາລາວມີຄວາມຄ້າຍຄືແລະແຕກຕ່າງກັນແນວໃດ. ສະເພາະຄຳສັບທີ່ວ່າ “ ໄທ ” ແມ່ນມີຄວາມໜ້າສົນໃນຕົວຂອງມັນ. ໃນພາສາໄທ ຄຳວ່າ “ ໄທ ” ມີຄວາມໝາຍວ່າ ມີອິສະຫຼະ ພາບ ໃນຂະນະທີ່ ໃນພາສາລາວ ໝາຍຄວາມວ່າ ຄົນ. ຕົວຢ່າງ ໄທຫຼວງພຣະບາງ ໝາຍຄວາມວ່າ ຄົນຫຼວງພຣະ ບາງ, ບໍ່ໄດ້ໝາຍຄວາມວ່າ ຄົນໄທທີ່ດຳລົງຊີວິດຢູ່ທີ່ນັ້ນ.
ໃນຖານະທີ່ເປັນພາກສ່ວນຂອງການສຶກສາທັງສອງຢ່າງ ວັດທະນາທຳແລະສິນລະທຳ (ແລະການໄດ້ຮັບອິດທິພົນຈາກການຈະເລີນເຕີບໂຕ ແລະອຳນາດຂອງ ສື່ທາງສັງຄົມ), ນັກສຶກສາຈຳເປັນຕ້ອງຮູ້ວ່າ ນິທານຕາຫຼົກພື້ບ້ານ ກ່ຽວກັບຄົນລາວແລະຄົນອີສານ ແມ່ນບໍ່ເມາະສົມ. ນິທານຕາຫຼົກພື້ນບ້ານຈຳນວນໜຶ່ງ ທີ່ຂ້າພະເຈົ້າເຄີຍໄດ້ຍິນ ບໍ່ສາມາດຈະເອົາມາພິມລົງທີ່ນີ້ໄດ້. ເຊັ່ນດຽວກັນ ບັນດານັກສະແດງ ຫຼືດາລາ ໃນເວລາໃຫ້ສຳພາດ ກໍຈຳເປັນຕ້ອງ ມີຄວາມລະອຽດອ່ອນທາງວັດທະນາທຳ ໃນເວລາທີ່ສະແດງຂໍ້ຄິດເຫັນກ່ຽວກັບລາວ. ໃນອາດີດກໍ່ເຄີຍມີເຫດການທີ່ບໍ່ຄາດຄິດກ່ຽວກັບປະເດັນນີ້ເກີດຂື້ນແລ້ວ.
ຄົນໄທຈຳເປັນຕ້ອງຮຽນຮູ້ແລະເຂົ້າໃຈຕື່ມ ກ່ຽວກັບນັກວິຊາການແລະນັນຂຽນທີ່ສຳຄັນຂອງລາວ ເຊັ່ນ ມາຫາ ສີລາ ວິຣະວັງ, ນັກປະຫວັດສາດຜູ້ໂດ່ງດັ່ງ (ພື້ນຖານມາຈາກ ຈັງຫວັດ ຣ້ອຍເອັດ) ແລະລູກຂອງເພີ່ນທັງສາມຄົນ ກໍເປັນນັກຂຽນທີ່ມືຊື່ສຽງທັງໝົດ, ນອກນີ້ ກໍຍັງມີ ອາຈານ ຜິວພັນ ແລະ ອາຈານ ມະຍຸຣີ ເງົາສີວັດ ເຊິ່ງເປັນນັກວິຊາ ການແລະນັກປະຫວັດສາດລາວທີ່ມີຜົນງານຢ່າງຫຼວງຫຼາຍ.
ເຕັກໜຶ່ງທີ່ໜ້າສະໜຸກສະໜານໃນການສອນກ່ຽວກັບຄວາມແຕກຕ່າງທີ່ເລິກເຊິ່ງລະຫ່ວາງສອງວັດທະນາທຳ ກໍ່ຄື ນຳສະເໜີຮູບພາບທີ່ສາມາດສື່ຄວາມໝາຍໄດ້ໃນຫຼາຍແງ່ມູມຂອງທັງສອງວັດທະນາທຳ ແລະໃຫ້ນັກສຶກສາຄົ້ນຄ້ວາວ່າ ຮູບພາບໃດແມ່ນໄທ ແລະຮູບໃດແມ່ນລາວ. ການເບີ່ງຮູບເງົາໃນເຊິີງການວິຈານ ເຊັ່ນ ຮູບເງົາເລື່ອງ “ສະບາຍດີ ຫຼວງພຣະບາງ” ກໍ່ເປັນອີກວິທີໜຶ່ງທີ່ສະໜຸກສະໜານແລະມີປະສິດທິຜົນສໍາຫຼັບ ຄົນໄທ ທີ່ຈະຮຽຮຮູ້ແລະເຂົ້າໃຈກ່ຽວ ກັບເພື່ອນບ້ານທີ່ສຳຄັນຂອງພວກເຂົາ.
ເຖີງແມ່ນວ່າຄົນລາວເກືອບທັງໝົດ ສາມາດເຂົ້າໃຈພາສາໄທ, ແຕ່ເຂົາເຈົ້າກໍ່ຈະຊາບຊຶ້ງຢ່າງເລິກເຊິ່ງ ເມື່ອເຫັນຄົນໄທສະແດງຄວາມພະຍາຍາມທີ່ຈະປາກພາສາຂອງພວກເຂົາ ເຊິ່ງມັນກໍ່ເປັນເລື່ອງທີ່ຂ້ອນຂ້າງງ່າຍ ເນື່ອງຈາກຄວາມຄ້າຍຄືກັນລະຫ່ວາງສອງພາສາ. ດຣ. ສຸມົນທາ ພຣົມບູນ, ອະດີດອະທິການບໍດີ ຂອງມະຫາວິທະຍາໄລ ສຣີ ນະຄະຣິນວິໂຣດ ໄດ້ໃຊ້ຄວາມພະຍາຍາມຢ່າງໃຫຍ່ຫຼວງຈົນສາມາດປາກ ແລະຂຽນພາສາລາວໄດ້ເປັນຢ່າງດີ ໃນເວລາທີ່ເພີ່ນເປັນທີ່ປຶກສາໃຫ້ທະນາຄານພັດທະນາອາຊີ (ADB) ທີ່ປະເທດລາວ. ຄວາມພະຍາຍາມດັ່ງກ່າວຂອງເພີ່ນໄດ້ເປັນທີ່ຮັບຮູ້ຢ່າງຊາບຊຶ້ງ. ສົມເດັດເຈົ້າຟ້າ ພຣະມະຫາ ຈັກກຣີ ສິຣິນທອນ, ທ່ານ ອານັນ ປັນຍາຣະຊຸນ, ອະດີດນາຍົກລັດຖະມົນຕີ, ສາດສະດາຈານ ຊານວິດ ກະເສດສີຣິ, ດຣ. ປຣະເວສ໌ ວາສີ ແລະ ສຸລັກ ສີວະຣັກສາ ໄດ້ສະແດງຄວາມປະທັບໃຈ ແລະຄວາມຮູ້ສຶກທາງວັດທະນາທຳທີ່ຄວນຖືເປັນແບບຢ່າງ ໃນບົດຂຽນ ແລະການມີສຳພັນທະໄມຕີ ຂອງພວກເພີ່ນກັບຄົນລາວ.
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Thailand and Laos just like India and Pakistan, Anybody remenber General Pervez Musseraff who rules Pakii Army for many decaded. He was borned in New Delhi India but called himself Pakii. see that !!! same as Laos and Thailand. there's some Lao revolutionaries (PDR) were borned on the other side of the river. and some thai high ranking military or politicians were related or descendant of Lao origin. see that !!! Even (Somdet Ya) a mother of current his makesty king (R9) Admitedly that her descendant came from ViengChunh... only some thai just can't accepted because Laos is poor and under developed...
Laos is very different in many ways then Thailand. Stop trying to compare Laos and Thailand. I am Lao and I am proud. What people need to understand is that me personally living in USA. I do not want Laos to be like Thailand. Laos is very special and unique in its own way. This uniqueness is what will keep Laos special. It is funny to me to see how some Thais are so insecure about themselves that they need to look down on less dominated countries inorder to feel better about themesleves.
we, Laotians need more to know about Thai-Siamese and our own Lao peoples. why some Lao peoples ( mostly stupids ) like so much Thai-Siamese? is the language that make them so fascinate so they just easily wanna be Thai-Siamese? our Lao language is one in the world that sound so beautiful ( according to the tourists) are we all not proud of our nation? let we all make our nation be more stronger every single day!
I an very proud to be Lao, we always protect our dignity, unique culture and langues. so many people said that Lao and Thai are similar but in dept, there are a lot of thing difference, we need to study more and more,especially the true history between Lao and Thai, culture value , Laos ( Lao People's Democratic Republic ) is independent and is member of the United Nations. Thai people should recognize the reality the thing you had done for Lao people in the past and stop to educate people on concept of '' Thai yai ideology '' and should respect the equal right of people, living and sharing the border line with Thai or Siamese, rich and poor having the same blood color.
ມາຫາ ສີລາ ວິຣະວັງ,
ວັດທະນະທຳ ບໍ່ແມ່ນຂຽນແຍກ ວັດ ທະນະທຳ ເຫັນການຂຽນທາງວິຊາການລາວ
ຫຼາຍບ່ອນມັກຂຽນແຍກ ບໍ່ຮູ້ເປັນຫຍັງ ?
I think the one who looked down on Laos is just pure igorance. If they were so called "educated" they wouldn't talk down at people. so Lao people we need to be above them and ignore the stupid because that's all they know. I'm sure if they are buddhist, karma is a bitch.
Lao use logic and common sense. thai will be shocked once they understand the rest of their neighbor history. People who are really smart would listen to both sides of the story and determine on their own what side makes the more sense. some times i am just shocked and speechless to hear what some thais have to say about lao history. unbeleivable anyway they will soon be in for a rude awakening when they see their history does not even match the history of their neighbors while lao cambodian burmese chinese all match. i love thai ppl dont get me wrong but they have to learn!
That's my translation done in Laos by Mr. Southa Chantalangsy and authourized by both The Nation and Gerry Fry himself!!! You can even see my original link here: http://www.worklivelaos.com/what-thais-need-to-know-and-learn-about-laotians/
Thai and Thai race was createdin 1939.
Siamese race was created after the fall of Ayuthaya.
So what is Thai and Siamese?
ในเนื้อหาระบุว่า"มึงไทยมาก"แต่ขอโทษ เขาด่ามื่งต่างหาก let me tell you15reasons why Thais sucks! 1.they′re bad at english. they′re terrible!! 2.they think their country is better than other countries (or best in the world) 3.they use Thai language on global websites because they′re too dumb and they have no manners. 4.they′re Steve Jobs′ slaves. 5.they′re retarded. very close to the north korean level. 6.they use pirated softwares.
7.they hate democracy. they don′t even have it right now.
8. feudalism!!
9. they snub other countries in ASEAN. especially Laos and Cambodia. they think their country is better... no they′re not.
10. faith is bigger than reasons.
11. they destroyed Buddhist.
12. they′re hypocrites. their country is one of the biggest sex market in the world, they still refuse to admit it.
13. their football team sucks!!!
14. their gov killed their own citizens!!
15. .(18 ส.ค.55ประชาชาติธุรกิจออนไลน์)
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ເນື້ອຫາຫລືເຫດຜົນ15ຂໍ້ທີ່ບອກໃຫ້ຊາວໂລກຣູ້ວ່າຊາວສຍາມ ເປັນຊົນຊາດທີ່ຊັ່ວຊ້າທີ່ສູດ
1. ພວກເຈົ້າເວົ້າພາສາອັງກິດຂີ້ຮ້າຍທີ່ສຸດ ແລະ ເປັນຫ່ວງຫ້ນາຢ້ານທີ່ສຸດເດີ ຊຽງຫມ້ຽງ
2. ພວກເຈົ້າຄິດວ່າ ປະເທດຂອງພວກເຈົ້າດິກ່ວາ ປະເທດອື່ນ (ຫລື ເລີດທີ່ສູດໃນໂລກ)
3.ພວກເຈົ້າໃຊ້ພາສາສຍາມໃນແວບໄຊທັ່ວໂລກເພາະພວກເຈົ້າກຳລັງໃບ້(ປາກກຶກ)ເກີນໄປແລະບໍ່ມີມາຣະຍາດ
4.ພວກເຈົ້າກຳລັງເປັນທາດສຕິຟຈອບ
5.ພວກເຈົ້າກຳລັງອ່ອນເພັຍລ້າຫລັງ ທີ່ໄກ້ຄຽງກັບປະເທດເກົາຫລີເຫນືອຈົນໄດ້
6.ພວກເຈົ້າລັກໃຊ້ແວບໄຊ ໃນຮູບຂຸນໂຈນ
7.ພວກເຈົ້າກຽດຊັງປະຊາທີປະໄຕ ທີ່ພວກເຈົ້າ ເວລານີ້ຍັງຕ້ອງການ
8.ພວກເຈົ້າຮັບໃຊ້ລະບົບສັກດິນາລ້າຫລັງ
9.ພວກເຈົ້າດູຖູກປະເທດອື່ນໆ ໃນອາຊຽນໂດຍສະເພາະຢ່າງຍີ່ງປະເທດລາວແລະ ຂເມນ ພວກເຈົ້າຄິດວ່າພວກເຈົ້າດິກ່ວາເຂົາ ແຕ່ແລ້ວບໍ່ເປັນເຊັ່ນນັ້ນ
10.ພວກເຈົ້າເປັນຄົນເຊື່ອຫັ້ມນມີສັດຈະທັມຫລາຍກ່ວາເຫດຜົນ
11.ພວກເຈົ້າທຳລາຍພຣະພູດທະສາສນາ
12.ພວກເຈົ້າກຳລັງເປັນຄົນຫ້ນາໄຫ້ວຫັລງຫລອກ ມືຖືສາກປາກຖືສີນ
ປະເທດຂອງເຈົ້າກຳລັງເປັນນື່ງໃນຕລາດທີ່ມີເຊັກທີ່ໄຫ່ຍທີ່ສຸດໃນໂລກ ທິ່ພວກເຈົ້າຍັງຄົງປະຕິເສດທີ່ຈະຍອມຮັບມັນຈົນໄດ້
13.ທີມເຕະບານຂອງພວກເຈົ້າຍ່ຳແຍ້ທີ່ສູດ
14.ຣັຖບານຂອງເຈົ້າເຂັນຂ້າປະຊາຊົນຕົນເອງແບບບ້າຄັ້ງທີ່ສຸດ
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ພຽງແຕ່ອ່ານຂໍ້ທຳອິດເຈົ້າກະຈືດແລ້ວ ຖ້າອ່ານຫົມດ ທັງ15ຂໍ້ ຕາຍທັງເປັນເລີຍ
ຄຳຄິດເຫັນກ່ຽວກັບສັນດານຂອງຄົນສຍາມໃນສາຍຕາຂອງຄົນຟິລິບປິນນີ້ ຖືກຕີແຜ່ໃນເຝສບຸກ ຫນັງສືພີມ ປະຊາຊາດທຸຣະກິດອອນໄບໄດ້ນຳມາພີມເຜິຍແຜ່ໃນ ວັນທີ່ 18 ສີງຫາຄົມ2012 ແລະ ວັນທີ່ 19 ຕໍ່ມາ ມະຕີຊົນອອນລາຍຊື້ງຄົນເຊຶ້ອສາຍລາວເປັນກັມມະຊິດ(ທ້ນໃນຕລາດຫລັກສັບສ່ວນໄຫ່ຍ) ໄດ້ນຳມາແຜ່ແບອີກຄັ້ງ
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Anyway, Lao people have to be ourselves and a strong nation, independent from both Thailand and Vietnam.
Lao-Thai battles occurred almost two hundreds years ago when Siam destroyed Vientiane and depopulated Lan Xang and tortured our beloved king. The current mentality of Thais regarding Lao people and Laos is no longer so destructive as before. It's just the Thai mentality towards their neighbors. Lao people has survived, are aware of their past history, keep an eye open to not repeating history, and are developing ourselves.
What Lao people should also be very careful of now is our so-called new brother from the east, the Viet. While the Thai may look down on us, they come as tourists and spend their money in Laos and return to their homeland afterwards. Thousands of Lao people are working in Thailand and send money back home to relatives in Laos. These are not the case for the Viet. Under the so-called lifelong brotherhood deal, they slowly come to flood Laos and exploit our forests and other natural resources. And then they tried to show us that they helped us build this and that. The truth is they have been taking advantage of us. This process of inhalation of Laos occur silently with the cooperation of our corrupted leaders. If we think carefully, the Viet are even smarter and more dangerous and destructive to Laos than were/are/will be the Thais.